PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 14:43:20 我们那天真的没人收到par?
我2010-11-26 15:19:00 截至今天下午3点,我没有收到。【提示:此用户正在使用WebQQ:http://web2.qq.com/】
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:19:42 呵呵,那个华师流利mm
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:19:47 昨晚也说没收到
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:19:53 但是群里很多武汉和南昌的
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:19:57 比我们晚ac
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:19:59 都收到了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:20:03 奇了怪了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:20:14 22号ac的
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:20:17 都收到了
我2010-11-26 15:20:13 这个……还是别那么纠结了吧。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:20:40 我同学一直在问我
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:20:52 银行你准备的怎么样
我2010-11-26 15:20:59 央行……只能说看了一下书。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:21:16 好像只考会计
我2010-11-26 15:21:19 CPA级别的难度
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:21:34 ~~~~
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:21:48 boc还稍微好些
我2010-11-26 15:21:51 而且是专考其中的《会计》和《财务成本管理》两门。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:22:00 考行测
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:22:29 英语 和综合
我2010-11-26 15:24:03 你投了KPMG没有?
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:24:16 笔试
我2010-11-26 15:24:11 收到一面的通知了,
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:24:20 之后就没消息
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:24:28 我笔试做的很烂
我2010-11-26 15:24:26 我都以为被默拒了。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:24:41 你什么时候一面?
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:24:55 我是10。22考的
我2010-11-26 15:24:51 29号,下午2点
我2010-11-26 15:25:04 搞不懂为什么要那么长时间
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:25:17 呵呵
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:25:20 你最近才收到?》
我2010-11-26 15:25:31 是啊,前天才接到电话。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:25:54 我是没办法
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:25:59 做的实在太烂
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:26:05 数理逻辑部分
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:26:08 很差很差
我2010-11-26 15:26:17 这有什么啊,我还有题目空着咧
我2010-11-26 15:26:26 估计是申请的人数不够了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:26:46 不过这也好,后来我再做其他的资料题时,就很顺手了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:26:57 pwc的资料题,都做的还ok
我2010-11-26 15:26:59 而且接电话的时候,KPMG的HR还告诉我可以更改申请的分所
我2010-11-26 15:27:08 然后我就改为申请广州分所了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:27:30 那你数理逻辑部分大概对了多少题
我2010-11-26 15:27:33 早就忘了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:27:52 呵呵,你们广外就是好
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:28:04 很多校友在外企
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:28:10 其实找工作,很多时候要靠这些的
我2010-11-26 15:28:07 算了吧
我2010-11-26 15:28:27 很多名企的宣讲会都不在广外开的。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:28:38 是这样子的了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:28:45 宣讲归宣讲
我2010-11-26 15:28:43 就连KPMG也是,去年还来,今年不来了。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:28:54 但是你们的师兄师姐,真的很不错
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:29:01 在外企里混的很好
我2010-11-26 15:29:11 P啊,外企是鬼子和假洋鬼子的天下
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:29:43 至少你们的师兄师姐,有在里面做manager的
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:29:57 我们那天那个主持的hr
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:30:02 不就是你们师姐嘛
我2010-11-26 15:30:09 对了,四大不是外企,工商注册的时候写的是“中外合作企业”。
我2010-11-26 15:30:23 名字后面拖了尾巴的
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:30:33 其实是香港脚
我2010-11-26 15:30:32 只是我们一直无视而已
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:30:47 其实就是香港脚
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:30:52 那些par
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:30:55 都是香港人
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:31:12 或者鬼佬
我2010-11-26 15:31:29 所以我记录自己申请的公司时,把四大归入“私企”一类。
我2010-11-26 15:31:36 实质重于形式嘛
我2010-11-26 15:33:30 对了,你认识的师兄师姐里面,有人在工行的麼?
我2010-11-26 15:33:37 收到了工行的笔试通知。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:33:43 没
我2010-11-26 15:33:48 真的没有?
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:33:55 我都没投工行
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:33:59 真的
我2010-11-26 15:33:59 那算了。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:34:37 工行传待遇很差
我2010-11-26 15:35:43 是啊,我问问别人去。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:36:12 我现在有个同学,原先是江门工行跳槽出来考研的
我2010-11-26 15:36:16 然后呢?
我2010-11-26 15:36:31 他有没有说工行的待遇如何?
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:36:39 他07年进去,08年走人
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:36:42 很差
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:36:49 在江门那种地方,不到2k
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:36:54 全部加起来
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:37:05 年节费
我2010-11-26 15:37:00 年终有多少米发?
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:37:14 全部加起来
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:37:17 平均2k
我2010-11-26 15:37:15 ……
我2010-11-26 15:37:29 那还不如去股份制那几家!
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:37:36 后来他跳槽到江门职业技术学院
我2010-11-26 15:37:48 ?跳到大专院校做甚?
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:37:58 应该是08年9月份离开工行的
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:38:08 做行政
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:38:11 团委里混
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:38:23 他差不多就在工行里呆了一年
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:38:41 不过他走的时候,马上加薪了....
我2010-11-26 15:38:45 哦
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:38:56 也就是说,08年校招进去的,马上加到2k
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:39:13 他07年校招进去的,base不到2k
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:39:31 但08年校招进去的,base加到2k
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:39:41 本科去银行的话,不划算的
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:39:51 银行这种地方,都很保守
我2010-11-26 15:39:46 不知道我们这些10年进去的还有没有得加……
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:40:12 排资论辈
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:40:20 国企都是这样子的了
我2010-11-26 15:40:41 其实……国企也分三六九等的
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:40:52 如果你真的选择工行作为自己的终身工作地,迟早要出来读研
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:40:54 那是
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:41:14 但银行都不错
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:41:21 除非是邮储...
我2010-11-26 15:44:02最好的是国资委控股的那169家央企的总部,那个比考公务员还难。过来是央企在广东的省级公司,还有广东省控股的国企;然后是央企广东省级公司下面的各地级市公司,最差的就是它们控股的子公司——所谓的“国有控股企业”。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:44:34 央企还用说吗
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:44:39 但是央企很黑
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:44:47 很难进
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:45:02 我们班有一个靠关系,去了中粮,暑假就过去实习了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:45:26 还有你提到的所谓的低调的国企,那些其实早就内定好了
我2010-11-26 15:45:41 哦,原来你还记得我说的那些国企。
我2010-11-26 15:46:04 我说的那些都是央企在广东各地级市的分公司
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:46:25 这种招聘条件很奇怪:1、条件很低,不限专业;2、条件很多但是很无稽(比如限性别户籍)
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:46:34 我知道
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:46:37 也很黑
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:47:19 如果你看到银行不限专业,那绝对是关系户的绿色通道
我2010-11-26 15:47:53我记得我找到这么几家:
中储粮油脂工业公司东莞分公司
中铁物资集团(华南)有限公司
广州银联网络支付有限公司
我2010-11-26 15:48:15 都是央企大树上的某个小小树枝,没必要留给关系户的。
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:48:32 那你去试下
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:48:36 最好直接打电话过去
我2010-11-26 15:48:48 中铁面过了,不过当时感冒,估计已经挂了。
我2010-11-26 15:49:33 银联现在还可以交简历,但是那是银联的子公司,估计待遇只有起步价那么点儿
我2010-11-26 15:50:03 中储粮那个交了简历,只收到“邮件已读”的回执
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:50:20 呵呵,我看书去了
PwC面试同伴2010-11-26 15:50:23 准备下boc
我2010-11-26 15:50:50 see you。
2010年11月26日星期五
2010年11月19日星期五
雅居樂前十個月合同銷售226億元
【財經網專稿】記者 任政宇
11月4日,中國領先市場的房企雅居樂地產控股有限公司(3383.HK)在電子郵件中告訴記者,公司10月錄得合同銷售面積41萬平米,環比增長70.83%,金額54億元,環比增長74.19%。
據雅居樂銷售統計數據,截至10月31日,2010公司累計實現合同銷售面積205萬平米,同比增長17%,銷售金額226億元,同比增長66%,合約銷售均價約為每平方米11,033元,已完成全年目標之91.87%。
雅居樂官方介紹10月銷售環比大幅增長的原因在於,公司旗下海南清水灣項目已開始進入銷售旺季,其於10月貢獻銷售額24億元,占10月總額之44.44%。“目前海南的限購令僅在海口及三亞兩市實行,並不適用於項目所在地區,因此限購令對項目的銷售的影響甚微。”雅居樂如是解釋。
雅居樂某宣傳負責人在接受電話采訪時表示,根據開發周期和進度,公司2010年余下兩月至2011年上半年還將會推出大量可售項目,主要集中在珠三角及海南省。對於具體的推盤量,她表示需結合具體項目的具體進度,目前尚不能確定。她還表示,雅居樂目前正在積極的增加土地儲備。據公告,雅居樂此前剛於10月底斥資61億元在南京和佛山兩地購得了三幅土地。
據年報,2009年全年雅居樂實現合同銷售面積279萬平米,銷售金額226億元。據公告,截至2010年10月31日,雅居樂土地儲備建面共計3,310萬平米。
雅居樂是恒生綜合指數、恒生流通綜合指數及摩根士丹利中國指數成份股。
(《證券市場周刊》供稿)
Agile Realized ¥22.6 Billion in 10-month Contract Sales
Caijing Exclusive Report
by Ren Zhengyu
Agile Property Holdings Limited (3383.HK), a leading property developer in mainland China, recorded sales in October as 5.4 billion yuan, or 410,000 m2 in volume, a 70.83% surge compared with the same time in 2009, according to emails sent to Caijing reporters.
As of October 31st, Agile has realized sales of 2.05 million sq meters, up 17% than the previous same period. Perspectively, the cumulative amount is 22.6 billion, up 66% with the average unit price being ¥11,083/m2, 91.84% completing the company's annual goal. (Source: Agile sales statistic data)
Officical explaination attributes the record to boosted sales of the opened Qingshui Bay, Hainan Province. It contributed 2.4 billion to the October sales, or 44.44%. "Currently the governmental restriction policy takes effect only in Haikou and Sanya, having minor interference to the project." explained by Agile in the email.
An Agile executive in charge of promotion and marketing affairs accepted our phone interview. The company, she said, plans to open more available-for-sale projects for sales in the next two months and the first half of 2011, mainly in Pearl Delta and Hainan. She didn't specify the exact volumes to open, saying that it needs to consider developing status of specific projects.
Additionally, she admitted that Agile is now progressively enlarging its land reserves. Public announcement showed Agile purchased three lands in Nanjing and Foshan at a 6.1 billion yuan, making the land reserve 331 million sq meters. Also, Agile's revenue was 22.6 billion yuan in 2009, selling houses of 2.79 million sq meters. (Source: Agile 2009 Annual Report)
Agile is a constituent stock of the Hang Seng Index, Hang Seng Freefloat Composite Index and Morgan Stanley Capital International (MSCI) China Index.
11月4日,中國領先市場的房企雅居樂地產控股有限公司(3383.HK)在電子郵件中告訴記者,公司10月錄得合同銷售面積41萬平米,環比增長70.83%,金額54億元,環比增長74.19%。
據雅居樂銷售統計數據,截至10月31日,2010公司累計實現合同銷售面積205萬平米,同比增長17%,銷售金額226億元,同比增長66%,合約銷售均價約為每平方米11,033元,已完成全年目標之91.87%。
雅居樂官方介紹10月銷售環比大幅增長的原因在於,公司旗下海南清水灣項目已開始進入銷售旺季,其於10月貢獻銷售額24億元,占10月總額之44.44%。“目前海南的限購令僅在海口及三亞兩市實行,並不適用於項目所在地區,因此限購令對項目的銷售的影響甚微。”雅居樂如是解釋。
雅居樂某宣傳負責人在接受電話采訪時表示,根據開發周期和進度,公司2010年余下兩月至2011年上半年還將會推出大量可售項目,主要集中在珠三角及海南省。對於具體的推盤量,她表示需結合具體項目的具體進度,目前尚不能確定。她還表示,雅居樂目前正在積極的增加土地儲備。據公告,雅居樂此前剛於10月底斥資61億元在南京和佛山兩地購得了三幅土地。
據年報,2009年全年雅居樂實現合同銷售面積279萬平米,銷售金額226億元。據公告,截至2010年10月31日,雅居樂土地儲備建面共計3,310萬平米。
雅居樂是恒生綜合指數、恒生流通綜合指數及摩根士丹利中國指數成份股。
(《證券市場周刊》供稿)
Agile Realized ¥22.6 Billion in 10-month Contract Sales
Caijing Exclusive Report
by Ren Zhengyu
Agile Property Holdings Limited (3383.HK), a leading property developer in mainland China, recorded sales in October as 5.4 billion yuan, or 410,000 m2 in volume, a 70.83% surge compared with the same time in 2009, according to emails sent to Caijing reporters.
As of October 31st, Agile has realized sales of 2.05 million sq meters, up 17% than the previous same period. Perspectively, the cumulative amount is 22.6 billion, up 66% with the average unit price being ¥11,083/m2, 91.84% completing the company's annual goal. (Source: Agile sales statistic data)
Officical explaination attributes the record to boosted sales of the opened Qingshui Bay, Hainan Province. It contributed 2.4 billion to the October sales, or 44.44%. "Currently the governmental restriction policy takes effect only in Haikou and Sanya, having minor interference to the project." explained by Agile in the email.
An Agile executive in charge of promotion and marketing affairs accepted our phone interview. The company, she said, plans to open more available-for-sale projects for sales in the next two months and the first half of 2011, mainly in Pearl Delta and Hainan. She didn't specify the exact volumes to open, saying that it needs to consider developing status of specific projects.
Additionally, she admitted that Agile is now progressively enlarging its land reserves. Public announcement showed Agile purchased three lands in Nanjing and Foshan at a 6.1 billion yuan, making the land reserve 331 million sq meters. Also, Agile's revenue was 22.6 billion yuan in 2009, selling houses of 2.79 million sq meters. (Source: Agile 2009 Annual Report)
Agile is a constituent stock of the Hang Seng Index, Hang Seng Freefloat Composite Index and Morgan Stanley Capital International (MSCI) China Index.
2010年11月18日星期四
香港會計師公會:AH股報表統一需時
發布時間:2009年3月30日 來源:文匯報 作者:顏茜
內地與香港會計審計準則等效後,A+H股同步上市的內地企業冀使用同一審計報告,但市場憂慮本港無權監管內地審計師的操守,令內地來港上市公司財務及內部管治的監管喪失最後一道屏障,危及投資者利益。香港會計師公會行政總裁張智媛表示,現時A、H股財報統一的關鍵在於兩地審計師監管體制的等效,公會作為本港審計師的實地審查機構,可負責兩地監管體制的比較工作,但有待港交所(0388)授權及給予資金支持。
據港交所《上市規則》,於本港上市的公司財務報表須由本港執業審計師或有國際聲譽審計師簽署審計報告。張智媛指出,AH股報表統一的核心問題就在於,將來港交所是否可以接受由內地審計師簽署內地來港上市公司的審計報告,就如匯豐控股(0005)、渣打銀行(2888)可由海外審計師簽署報告一樣。
存在監管力度不同
張智媛透露,港交所現時尚未松口的隱憂,就在於兩地監管力度的差異。她指公會作為本港審計界的監管者,有良好的實地審查經驗以保持市場質素,並已有成功推動兩地會計審計準則等效的先例,公會可負責兩地審計監管制度上的差異,並與中國財政部協商完善相關制度,預計相關制度的對比工作毋須歷時一年。
不過,會計師公會需“出師有名”,張智媛指出,公會現有待港交所依據《上市規則》授予公會此權責,著手審計監管制度的對比工作。對於早前有媒體報道指,公會將派員前往內地實地審查AH股統一核數報告的試點會計師事務所,AH股報表統一在即,她澄清指,公會無監管內地核數師權力,亦不會實地審查內地會計師行,將來亦只會從事制度層面的對比及完善工作,何況現時工作尚未啟動。
兩地報表差異不大
她續指,內地企業要求只做一份審計報告實際上是合乎情理的要求,07年兩地會計審計準則等效後,中國財政部分析了57家A+H股上市公司2007會計年度報表,發現差距僅為資產及盈利的3-4%,差異主要由於兩地準則對個別項目的處理方法不同而導致的歷史遺留問題,在內地采用新會計準則後的A+H股公司,已不存在財報差異問題。
===========================反对地方保护主义的分割线==========================
博主评论:
毫无疑问,这是联交所以及香港会计师公会以所谓“保护投资者利益”为理由,无视国家财政部对A股和H股报表的分析数据,无视国际四大已在内地执业多年、为内地资本市场完善和发展做出重要贡献的事实,同时无视内地自2001年以来会计行业建设所做的努力。一直以来,同时报送A股、H股两套报表的做法为上市公司增加了额外的成本和负担。联交所和香港会计师公会拒绝推动A股报表和H股报表统一的做法是“地方保护主义”淋漓尽致的体现,将严重阻滞两地会计业界的交流与沟通、企业会计信息质量的提高。
內地與香港會計審計準則等效後,A+H股同步上市的內地企業冀使用同一審計報告,但市場憂慮本港無權監管內地審計師的操守,令內地來港上市公司財務及內部管治的監管喪失最後一道屏障,危及投資者利益。香港會計師公會行政總裁張智媛表示,現時A、H股財報統一的關鍵在於兩地審計師監管體制的等效,公會作為本港審計師的實地審查機構,可負責兩地監管體制的比較工作,但有待港交所(0388)授權及給予資金支持。
據港交所《上市規則》,於本港上市的公司財務報表須由本港執業審計師或有國際聲譽審計師簽署審計報告。張智媛指出,AH股報表統一的核心問題就在於,將來港交所是否可以接受由內地審計師簽署內地來港上市公司的審計報告,就如匯豐控股(0005)、渣打銀行(2888)可由海外審計師簽署報告一樣。
存在監管力度不同
張智媛透露,港交所現時尚未松口的隱憂,就在於兩地監管力度的差異。她指公會作為本港審計界的監管者,有良好的實地審查經驗以保持市場質素,並已有成功推動兩地會計審計準則等效的先例,公會可負責兩地審計監管制度上的差異,並與中國財政部協商完善相關制度,預計相關制度的對比工作毋須歷時一年。
不過,會計師公會需“出師有名”,張智媛指出,公會現有待港交所依據《上市規則》授予公會此權責,著手審計監管制度的對比工作。對於早前有媒體報道指,公會將派員前往內地實地審查AH股統一核數報告的試點會計師事務所,AH股報表統一在即,她澄清指,公會無監管內地核數師權力,亦不會實地審查內地會計師行,將來亦只會從事制度層面的對比及完善工作,何況現時工作尚未啟動。
兩地報表差異不大
她續指,內地企業要求只做一份審計報告實際上是合乎情理的要求,07年兩地會計審計準則等效後,中國財政部分析了57家A+H股上市公司2007會計年度報表,發現差距僅為資產及盈利的3-4%,差異主要由於兩地準則對個別項目的處理方法不同而導致的歷史遺留問題,在內地采用新會計準則後的A+H股公司,已不存在財報差異問題。
===========================反对地方保护主义的分割线==========================
博主评论:
毫无疑问,这是联交所以及香港会计师公会以所谓“保护投资者利益”为理由,无视国家财政部对A股和H股报表的分析数据,无视国际四大已在内地执业多年、为内地资本市场完善和发展做出重要贡献的事实,同时无视内地自2001年以来会计行业建设所做的努力。一直以来,同时报送A股、H股两套报表的做法为上市公司增加了额外的成本和负担。联交所和香港会计师公会拒绝推动A股报表和H股报表统一的做法是“地方保护主义”淋漓尽致的体现,将严重阻滞两地会计业界的交流与沟通、企业会计信息质量的提高。
2010年11月15日星期一
美蘭機場回歸A股計劃獲中國證監會初步批准
2010-11-10 16:52:30 來源: 網易財經
網易財經11月10日訊 海航集團旗下唯一上市的機場——海口美蘭機場在今年4月將母公司資產裝入後,回歸A股的計劃越來越近。昨日,美蘭機場在港交所發布公告停牌,並稱將刊發一項“涉及修訂公司非常重大收購交易”的條款公告。據海南航空一位內部人士透露,美蘭機場已經獲得了中國證監會的初步審批,此次停牌後公布的事件就是發行A股事宜。
今年4月,美蘭機場正式收購母公司——海航機場控股(集團)有限公司54.5%股權,總價為21.999億元人民幣(約24.85億港元)。當時美蘭機場相關負責人向網易財經表示,公司已經向中國證監會遞交了發行不多於2億股的A股申請書,並預計審批時間將在半年左右。據今年4月半年後的11月9日,美蘭機場停牌。對此,美蘭機場董秘邢周金予以默認,他表示目前公司正在等待香港證券交易所對其提交的公告做最後審核,一旦審核通過,公告發布後股票將復牌,復牌具體時間尚不能預估。
海航機場集團旗下目前有包括海口美蘭、三亞鳳凰、宜昌三峽、甘肅機場集團(包括蘭州、敦煌、嘉峪關、慶陽)等14個機場。美蘭機場是唯一一個上市公司,按照海航的計劃,希望以美蘭機場為基礎,將旗下其余機場資產註入,再返回A股,實現整個機場資產的上市。在今年4月美蘭機場收購海航機場54.5%股權後,資產註入工作基本完畢,其回歸也進入沖刺階段。據邢周金之前介紹,目前美蘭、鳳凰和三峽是機場集團中最為盈利的三個機場,美蘭完成海航機場股權收購後,間接控制了三亞鳳凰機場67%的股權,上市公司整體盈利能力明顯提高。按照宣布收購後的計劃,美蘭機場申請發行不多於2億股A股,占擴大後股本不超過29.71%,發行價不會低於H股於A股發行詢價期內在聯交所的平均收市價的90%。
在資本運作上被成為“八爪魚”的海航集團動作頻繁,除其主業——海南航空(A股)和美蘭機場(H股)兩個上市公司外,寶商集團、西安民生、SST天海、*ST築信等6個上市公司均有海航資本參與。
(本文來源:網易財經 作者:曹玲麗)
Hainan - Hainan Meilan International Airport Co. Ltd (00357. HK), the only listed airport under the HNA Group, is another step closer to its return to the A-share market after injecting assets from its parent company. Yesterday, it issued a trading suspension announcement in HKEx, declaring an upcoming "substantial deal of acquisition involved with the issuer". According to the sources familiar with the matter, China Securities Regulatory Committee ("CSRC") has initially approved the airport corporation's A-share issuing plan, the event to be announced after the suspension.
In April, the airport company aquired 54.5% share of HNA Airport Holding (Group) Co., its holding company, whose amount valued about HK$2,485 million. During that time, it has formally submitted the 200-million A-share issue proposal to CSRC, disclosed from relevant executives from Meilan Airport Co.. On Nov. 9th, which is 6 month from that day, the stock suspended for trading. Xing Zhoujin, the secretary of the board of executives, pretermitted the ongoing return plan. The airport company is awaiting the HKEx for the final review upon the submitted documents, he said. Once approved, the stock resumes trading after the announcement, with the exact resume date unable to estimate.
As the airport operation segment of HNA Group, the holding group owns 14 airports: Haikou Meilan, Sanya Phoenix, Yichang Sanxia, Gansu Airport Group(airports in Lanzhou, Dunhuang, Jiayuguan and Qingyang), etc. HNA Group planned to inject other airport assets into it based on Meilan, the only public listed airport company, then return to the domestic A-share market, ultimately realizing holistic listing of its airport operations. The proposal had been in the final stage since the share aquisition in April, symbolizing the approximate completion upon the asset injection. Currently, Meilan, Phoenix and Sanxia contribute the most profits among 14 airports. After the aquisition, Meilan indirectly owned an equity of 67% in Sanya Phoenix Airport, apparently improving the listed company's profitability, said Xing. In details, Meilan airport company will issue no more than 200 million shares of A-share, less than 29.71% after the enlarged capitals, and the issuing price will be no less than 90% of H-share average closing price during the period of A-share quotation.
Nicknamed "Octopus", the HNA Group made frequent movements in capital operations. Apart from Hainan Airlines (600221. SH) and Meilan Airport (00357. HK), the group involves in other 6 listed companies: Baoji Department Store (Group) Co., Ltd (000796.SH), Xi'an Minsheng Group Co. Ltd.(000564.SH), Tianjin Marine Shipping Co., Ltd.(600751.SH), Hainan Zhuxin Investment Co. Ltd (600515.SH), etc.
(Source:Netease Financial Report:Cao Lingli)
網易財經11月10日訊 海航集團旗下唯一上市的機場——海口美蘭機場在今年4月將母公司資產裝入後,回歸A股的計劃越來越近。昨日,美蘭機場在港交所發布公告停牌,並稱將刊發一項“涉及修訂公司非常重大收購交易”的條款公告。據海南航空一位內部人士透露,美蘭機場已經獲得了中國證監會的初步審批,此次停牌後公布的事件就是發行A股事宜。
今年4月,美蘭機場正式收購母公司——海航機場控股(集團)有限公司54.5%股權,總價為21.999億元人民幣(約24.85億港元)。當時美蘭機場相關負責人向網易財經表示,公司已經向中國證監會遞交了發行不多於2億股的A股申請書,並預計審批時間將在半年左右。據今年4月半年後的11月9日,美蘭機場停牌。對此,美蘭機場董秘邢周金予以默認,他表示目前公司正在等待香港證券交易所對其提交的公告做最後審核,一旦審核通過,公告發布後股票將復牌,復牌具體時間尚不能預估。
海航機場集團旗下目前有包括海口美蘭、三亞鳳凰、宜昌三峽、甘肅機場集團(包括蘭州、敦煌、嘉峪關、慶陽)等14個機場。美蘭機場是唯一一個上市公司,按照海航的計劃,希望以美蘭機場為基礎,將旗下其余機場資產註入,再返回A股,實現整個機場資產的上市。在今年4月美蘭機場收購海航機場54.5%股權後,資產註入工作基本完畢,其回歸也進入沖刺階段。據邢周金之前介紹,目前美蘭、鳳凰和三峽是機場集團中最為盈利的三個機場,美蘭完成海航機場股權收購後,間接控制了三亞鳳凰機場67%的股權,上市公司整體盈利能力明顯提高。按照宣布收購後的計劃,美蘭機場申請發行不多於2億股A股,占擴大後股本不超過29.71%,發行價不會低於H股於A股發行詢價期內在聯交所的平均收市價的90%。
在資本運作上被成為“八爪魚”的海航集團動作頻繁,除其主業——海南航空(A股)和美蘭機場(H股)兩個上市公司外,寶商集團、西安民生、SST天海、*ST築信等6個上市公司均有海航資本參與。
(本文來源:網易財經 作者:曹玲麗)
Hainan - Hainan Meilan International Airport Co. Ltd (00357. HK), the only listed airport under the HNA Group, is another step closer to its return to the A-share market after injecting assets from its parent company. Yesterday, it issued a trading suspension announcement in HKEx, declaring an upcoming "substantial deal of acquisition involved with the issuer". According to the sources familiar with the matter, China Securities Regulatory Committee ("CSRC") has initially approved the airport corporation's A-share issuing plan, the event to be announced after the suspension.
In April, the airport company aquired 54.5% share of HNA Airport Holding (Group) Co., its holding company, whose amount valued about HK$2,485 million. During that time, it has formally submitted the 200-million A-share issue proposal to CSRC, disclosed from relevant executives from Meilan Airport Co.. On Nov. 9th, which is 6 month from that day, the stock suspended for trading. Xing Zhoujin, the secretary of the board of executives, pretermitted the ongoing return plan. The airport company is awaiting the HKEx for the final review upon the submitted documents, he said. Once approved, the stock resumes trading after the announcement, with the exact resume date unable to estimate.
As the airport operation segment of HNA Group, the holding group owns 14 airports: Haikou Meilan, Sanya Phoenix, Yichang Sanxia, Gansu Airport Group(airports in Lanzhou, Dunhuang, Jiayuguan and Qingyang), etc. HNA Group planned to inject other airport assets into it based on Meilan, the only public listed airport company, then return to the domestic A-share market, ultimately realizing holistic listing of its airport operations. The proposal had been in the final stage since the share aquisition in April, symbolizing the approximate completion upon the asset injection. Currently, Meilan, Phoenix and Sanxia contribute the most profits among 14 airports. After the aquisition, Meilan indirectly owned an equity of 67% in Sanya Phoenix Airport, apparently improving the listed company's profitability, said Xing. In details, Meilan airport company will issue no more than 200 million shares of A-share, less than 29.71% after the enlarged capitals, and the issuing price will be no less than 90% of H-share average closing price during the period of A-share quotation.
Nicknamed "Octopus", the HNA Group made frequent movements in capital operations. Apart from Hainan Airlines (600221. SH) and Meilan Airport (00357. HK), the group involves in other 6 listed companies: Baoji Department Store (Group) Co., Ltd (000796.SH), Xi'an Minsheng Group Co. Ltd.(000564.SH), Tianjin Marine Shipping Co., Ltd.(600751.SH), Hainan Zhuxin Investment Co. Ltd (600515.SH), etc.
(Source:Netease Financial Report:Cao Lingli)
2010年11月13日星期六
[轉載]香港两大會計師行低調合并
——香港兩大著名會計師行合并了。但有多少人真正地注意到了呢?
香港立信德豪會計師事務所有限公司(BDO Ltd,簡稱BDO)董事主席兼首席執行長區嘯翔(Albert Au)對《中國實時報》記者說,這也許是我們的職業風格。作為香港第五大和第六大會計師事務所,BDO和均富會計師行(Grant Thornton,以下簡稱均富)於10月份宣布合並,但幾乎沒有任何媒體報道。區嘯翔說,一般情況下,會計師成為新聞頭條不是件好事。
去年底,均富前合夥人司徒嘉(Gabriel Azedo)遭兩位客戶起訴後失蹤(迄今仍未露面)的消息走漏,均富因此不情願地成為了新聞焦點。其中一項起訴是因違反信托、違反信托義務及欺詐行為索要總數為1,170萬美元的索賠。另一項起訴索賠230萬美元。
田生集團有限公司(Richfield Group Holdings Ltd)董事兼財務總監、卓智控股有限公司(Ione Holdings Limited)董事及主席Brian Lee說,均富與BDO的合並將有助於擺脫司徒嘉醜聞的不良影響。田生集團是一家房地產投資控股公司,是均富的客戶,卓智是一家從事金融印刷服務的投資控股公司,是BDO的客戶。
Brian Lee認為此次合並是正確的。他說,對我們來說這是一個全球網絡,為我們提供更好更大的網絡。除了要支付更多工資,BDO並未支付其他費用獲得均富的客戶名單和員工,合並後BDO將擁有約1100名員工和70名合夥人。
區嘯翔說,沒有任何形式的商譽付款,我認為他們的行動就代表了一切,我的意思是,他們覺得他們正在加入一個他們致力於並信任的平臺,客戶知道了合並的消息並有權選擇其他會計師事務所,但所有客戶都在這次合並中與均富共進退。
均富首席執行長羅柏達(Patrick Rozario)說,我們的決定和司徒嘉無關,即使他還在公司,我們也會做同樣的決定。合並至少有一個好的副作用,就是均富這個名稱不復存在了。羅柏達還說,最終,因司徒嘉而起的訴訟還會將香港均富與這家世界級公司聯系在一起。
兩家公司宣布合並時沒有媒體進行報道,這有點奇怪。原因何在?雙方都未舉行新聞發布會。日期為10月7日的新聞稿並不是通過常規渠道發布的,盡管兩家公司10月8日在當地報紙投放了兩個四分之一版的廣告。
區嘯翔說,說實話,我們並沒有一個高水平的媒體部門,所以我認為我們的營銷部就通過一個媒體公司發布了這個消息,可能就導致消息不脛而走。
上周三,兩家公司共同發布消息約一個月後,南華早報(South China Morning Post)頭版文章稱此次合並是BDO大規模挖角行為,是“香港會計師領域最大規模的挖角”。區嘯翔稱根本沒有挖角,這有點嘩眾取寵,到處選人才是挖角,而現在是整個公司,也就是說所有的合夥人和員工都加入了BDO。
區嘯翔和羅柏達都希望在香港對四大會計師事務所構成強大的威脅:安永(Ernst&Young)、羅賓咸永道(PricewaterhouseCoopers)、德勤(Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu)和畢馬威(KPMG),這四大公司均拒絕置評,也未回復采訪電話。
區嘯翔說,雖然此次合并抹掉了香港著名會計師事務所名單上的一個名字,但事實上卻給了香港更多的選擇。BDO以前排在第五位,但遠遠落後於前面四家,這次合並將會使這個第五名的分量重得多。
原文:這裡
Missed It? Hong Kong’s Big Accounting Merger
- Two major accounting firms in Hong Kong have merged. But it’s not clear how many people actually noticed.
“It’s probably the style of our profession,” Albert Au, chairman and CEO of BDO Ltd, told China Real Time. His firm and Grant Thornton, the fifth and sixth largest accounting firms in Hong Kong, respectively, joined forces in October, but the event managed to generate virtually no media coverage. “Generally it’s not good when accountants are in the headlines,” said Au.
Grant Thornton managed to make a few unwanted headlines late last year when news leaked out that its former partner Gabriel Azedo disappeared (he still hasn’t surfaced) after two clients filed writs against him.
One of the writs is seeking a total of US$11.7 million for breach of trust, breaches of fiduciary duty and acts of fraud. The other is seeking US$2.3 million.
Grant Thornton’s merger with BDO could help shed the legacy of the Azedo scandal, says Brian Lee, director and financial controller of Richfield Group Holdings Ltd., and director and chairman of Ione Holdings Limited. Richfield, a real-estate investment holding company, is a client of Grant Thornton, and Ione, an investment holding company engaged in financial printing services, is a client of BDO.
Lee believes the merger is the right move. “It’s a global network for us, it gives us a much better, much bigger network,” he said.
Aside from increasing payroll, BDO isn’t paying anything to acquire Grant Thorton’s client list and staff, which will increase BDO to about 1,100 employees and 70 partners.
“There is no goodwill payment of any kind,” Au said. “I like to think they are voting with their feet. By that, I mean they think they’re joining a platform they have commitment to and believe in.” Clients were informed of the change and had the option to find another accounting firm. All clients have stayed with Grant Thornton for this merger.
“Our decision is not based on Gabriel,” said Patrick Rozario, CEO of Grant Thornton. “Even with Gabriel around, we would’ve made the same decision. It’s a good byproduct at least that the [Grant Thornton] name isn’t there anymore.”
Rozario added that at the end of the day, Grant Thornton in Hong Kong will still be tied to the world-wide firm by litigation stemming from the AWOL Mr. Azedo.
It’s a bit odd that none of the major media covered it when the merger was announced. Possible reasons? Neither party held a press conference. The press release dated Oct. 7 wasn’t distributed through usual channels, although the firms did place two quarter-page ads in the local press on Oct. 8.
“To be honest, we don’t have a sophisticated media division,” Au said, “so I think our marketing department just did it through a media company that I guess in turn helped disseminate it.”
On Wednesday, about a month after the joint press release, the South China Morning Post featured a front-page article describing the merger as a mass poaching of staff by BDO, “the biggest such raid in the city’s accounting sector.”
“It’s a bit sensational,” Au said, adding there was no raid. “Poaching is I pick a few heads here and there,” he said. “What you’re seeing here is the whole firm, meaning the partners and staff, coming to join us in BDO.”
From here, both Au and Rozario are hoping to be a formidable threat in Hong Kong to the Big Four in accounting: Ernst & Young, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu and KPMG, all of which declined to comment or didn’t return phone calls.
Even though the merger eliminates one name from the list of accounting giants in Hong Kong, Au said this move actually gives the city more choices. Whereas BDO was previously a distant fifth to these firms, Au said the combined staff will make it now a much closer fifth.
–Alice Truong
香港立信德豪會計師事務所有限公司(BDO Ltd,簡稱BDO)董事主席兼首席執行長區嘯翔(Albert Au)對《中國實時報》記者說,這也許是我們的職業風格。作為香港第五大和第六大會計師事務所,BDO和均富會計師行(Grant Thornton,以下簡稱均富)於10月份宣布合並,但幾乎沒有任何媒體報道。區嘯翔說,一般情況下,會計師成為新聞頭條不是件好事。
去年底,均富前合夥人司徒嘉(Gabriel Azedo)遭兩位客戶起訴後失蹤(迄今仍未露面)的消息走漏,均富因此不情願地成為了新聞焦點。其中一項起訴是因違反信托、違反信托義務及欺詐行為索要總數為1,170萬美元的索賠。另一項起訴索賠230萬美元。
田生集團有限公司(Richfield Group Holdings Ltd)董事兼財務總監、卓智控股有限公司(Ione Holdings Limited)董事及主席Brian Lee說,均富與BDO的合並將有助於擺脫司徒嘉醜聞的不良影響。田生集團是一家房地產投資控股公司,是均富的客戶,卓智是一家從事金融印刷服務的投資控股公司,是BDO的客戶。
Brian Lee認為此次合並是正確的。他說,對我們來說這是一個全球網絡,為我們提供更好更大的網絡。除了要支付更多工資,BDO並未支付其他費用獲得均富的客戶名單和員工,合並後BDO將擁有約1100名員工和70名合夥人。
區嘯翔說,沒有任何形式的商譽付款,我認為他們的行動就代表了一切,我的意思是,他們覺得他們正在加入一個他們致力於並信任的平臺,客戶知道了合並的消息並有權選擇其他會計師事務所,但所有客戶都在這次合並中與均富共進退。
均富首席執行長羅柏達(Patrick Rozario)說,我們的決定和司徒嘉無關,即使他還在公司,我們也會做同樣的決定。合並至少有一個好的副作用,就是均富這個名稱不復存在了。羅柏達還說,最終,因司徒嘉而起的訴訟還會將香港均富與這家世界級公司聯系在一起。
兩家公司宣布合並時沒有媒體進行報道,這有點奇怪。原因何在?雙方都未舉行新聞發布會。日期為10月7日的新聞稿並不是通過常規渠道發布的,盡管兩家公司10月8日在當地報紙投放了兩個四分之一版的廣告。
區嘯翔說,說實話,我們並沒有一個高水平的媒體部門,所以我認為我們的營銷部就通過一個媒體公司發布了這個消息,可能就導致消息不脛而走。
上周三,兩家公司共同發布消息約一個月後,南華早報(South China Morning Post)頭版文章稱此次合並是BDO大規模挖角行為,是“香港會計師領域最大規模的挖角”。區嘯翔稱根本沒有挖角,這有點嘩眾取寵,到處選人才是挖角,而現在是整個公司,也就是說所有的合夥人和員工都加入了BDO。
區嘯翔和羅柏達都希望在香港對四大會計師事務所構成強大的威脅:安永(Ernst&Young)、羅賓咸永道(PricewaterhouseCoopers)、德勤(Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu)和畢馬威(KPMG),這四大公司均拒絕置評,也未回復采訪電話。
區嘯翔說,雖然此次合并抹掉了香港著名會計師事務所名單上的一個名字,但事實上卻給了香港更多的選擇。BDO以前排在第五位,但遠遠落後於前面四家,這次合並將會使這個第五名的分量重得多。
原文:這裡
Missed It? Hong Kong’s Big Accounting Merger
- Two major accounting firms in Hong Kong have merged. But it’s not clear how many people actually noticed.
“It’s probably the style of our profession,” Albert Au, chairman and CEO of BDO Ltd, told China Real Time. His firm and Grant Thornton, the fifth and sixth largest accounting firms in Hong Kong, respectively, joined forces in October, but the event managed to generate virtually no media coverage. “Generally it’s not good when accountants are in the headlines,” said Au.
Grant Thornton managed to make a few unwanted headlines late last year when news leaked out that its former partner Gabriel Azedo disappeared (he still hasn’t surfaced) after two clients filed writs against him.
One of the writs is seeking a total of US$11.7 million for breach of trust, breaches of fiduciary duty and acts of fraud. The other is seeking US$2.3 million.
Grant Thornton’s merger with BDO could help shed the legacy of the Azedo scandal, says Brian Lee, director and financial controller of Richfield Group Holdings Ltd., and director and chairman of Ione Holdings Limited. Richfield, a real-estate investment holding company, is a client of Grant Thornton, and Ione, an investment holding company engaged in financial printing services, is a client of BDO.
Lee believes the merger is the right move. “It’s a global network for us, it gives us a much better, much bigger network,” he said.
Aside from increasing payroll, BDO isn’t paying anything to acquire Grant Thorton’s client list and staff, which will increase BDO to about 1,100 employees and 70 partners.
“There is no goodwill payment of any kind,” Au said. “I like to think they are voting with their feet. By that, I mean they think they’re joining a platform they have commitment to and believe in.” Clients were informed of the change and had the option to find another accounting firm. All clients have stayed with Grant Thornton for this merger.
“Our decision is not based on Gabriel,” said Patrick Rozario, CEO of Grant Thornton. “Even with Gabriel around, we would’ve made the same decision. It’s a good byproduct at least that the [Grant Thornton] name isn’t there anymore.”
Rozario added that at the end of the day, Grant Thornton in Hong Kong will still be tied to the world-wide firm by litigation stemming from the AWOL Mr. Azedo.
It’s a bit odd that none of the major media covered it when the merger was announced. Possible reasons? Neither party held a press conference. The press release dated Oct. 7 wasn’t distributed through usual channels, although the firms did place two quarter-page ads in the local press on Oct. 8.
“To be honest, we don’t have a sophisticated media division,” Au said, “so I think our marketing department just did it through a media company that I guess in turn helped disseminate it.”
On Wednesday, about a month after the joint press release, the South China Morning Post featured a front-page article describing the merger as a mass poaching of staff by BDO, “the biggest such raid in the city’s accounting sector.”
“It’s a bit sensational,” Au said, adding there was no raid. “Poaching is I pick a few heads here and there,” he said. “What you’re seeing here is the whole firm, meaning the partners and staff, coming to join us in BDO.”
From here, both Au and Rozario are hoping to be a formidable threat in Hong Kong to the Big Four in accounting: Ernst & Young, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu and KPMG, all of which declined to comment or didn’t return phone calls.
Even though the merger eliminates one name from the list of accounting giants in Hong Kong, Au said this move actually gives the city more choices. Whereas BDO was previously a distant fifth to these firms, Au said the combined staff will make it now a much closer fifth.
–Alice Truong
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